A Colder Fall Season & Early Winter Ahead

I'm concerned because of the extremely unusual behavior of this weather system.

I've only seen this behavior in a storm just once before ... and that was last year - when I watched that storm last year, I was just as dumbfounded.

This storm is *EXTREMELY* unusual in all aspects. The behavior of this particular system falls way outside of "normal" deviations. I stated 3 particular behaviors of this system which are all abnormal to the usual way storms approach the West Coast. Most particularly - this storm came straight south from British Colulmbia. That is almost unheard of here. All our storms approach from the ocean.

September/October consists of what used to be called "indian summer" along the coast - this is when we get the summer heat turned on. In "early start" rainy seasons, the earliest storms are usually mid/late October. This one is *way* early. We should be approaching, or in the midst of our warm summer days right now. Instead, its freezing cold and rainy.

When you put all the unusual behaviors and the timing of this storm together - this has me concerned. Now I'm wondering how dramatic the weather changes are going to be in the near future.

Originally Posted by Steve

No doubt it is an unseasonably cold and strong system. Weather has its extremes and that is why it never ceases to amaze me. But why are you "very concerned."

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Concerned in SF

I'm concerned because of the extremely unusual behavior of this weather system.

I've only seen this behavior in a storm just once before ... and that was last year - when I watched that storm last year, I was just as dumbfounded.

This storm is *EXTREMELY* unusual in all aspects. The behavior of this particular system falls way outside of "normal" deviations. I stated 3 particular behaviors of this system which are all abnormal to the usual way storms approach the West Coast. Most particularly - this storm came straight south from British Colulmbia. That is almost unheard of here. All our storms approach from the ocean.

September/October consists of what used to be called "indian summer" along the coast - this is when we get the summer heat turned on. In "early start" rainy seasons, the earliest storms are usually mid/late October. This one is *way* early. We should be approaching, or in the midst of our warm summer days right now. Instead, its freezing cold and rainy.

When you put all the unusual behaviors and the timing of this storm together - this has me concerned. Now I'm wondering how dramatic the weather changes are going to be in the near future.

Nobody is disputing this is abnormal. However I have seen abnormal conditions my entire meteorological life and that did not necessarily mean it is a prelude of things to come.

I do think it *may* be an indicator of the changes to come. This is only the 2nd time that I've seen a weather system behave this way - the first time was last year.

We all know that global warming is real - that is not the debate. The debate is over how fast global warming is happening now, and whether or not mankind has anything to do with it. The debate is also centered around how fast/dramatic the weather changes will be as a result of it.

Given these known facts (global warming, and weather changes), yes, I do think that unusual weather patterns that appear to be emerging in certain areas should be looked at with concern, rather than "Oh how wonderful the unpredictable weather is!".

Your avatar indicates you are a professional. What are the discussions that are being had amongst yourselves about global warming and its impact on weather patterns?

Originally Posted by Steve

Nobody is disputing this is abnormal. However I have seen abnormal conditions my entire meteorological life and that did not necessarily mean it is a prelude of things to come.

[Steve]

To be honest, the subject of global warming is not in my area of expertise, so I will not pretend that it is. I probably have pretty much read what you have about the topic. Personally I think global warming is a combination of a natural cycle and man made, but I do not know the breakdown. Nobody does.

Whoever deleted my post, it was an honest question: What are meteorologists saying in their circles of friends about the weather changes that are happening? I'm not asking for expert opinions. I'm asking for conversational dialogue.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Concerned in SF

Whoever deleted my post, it was an honest question: What are meteorologists saying in their circles of friends about the weather changes that are happening? I'm not asking for expert opinions. I'm asking for conversational dialogue.

We all agree there is global warming, just differences in how much is man made. Some think lots of what goes on with the weather is tied to it, others don't.

[dyndrite]

There is no such thing as normal weather. The weather is what it is.

Dyndrite